Frequently Asked Questions: (last updated for June 2010)
What is a Concours? Also known as a Show and Shine, the Patroon Concours is a day that starts with a Car Show, continues with a Road Rally after lunch (yes, lunch), and ends with a Banquet Dinner with a small awards ceremony.
How clean does my car need to be? There are multiple levels of cleanliness. Check out the sample judging sheets (coming soon). There is Clean (Exterior/Interior), Super Clean (Clean +trunk +engine bay), Concours (Super Clean +underbody). And if you just don’t want to clean, there’s the Dirty Dog. If you’re shy, a Display Only category is available.
You can find a sample judging sheet and items judges look at here: Judging Sheet and Judging Guide
What is the Road Rally About? This year we are going to take two different rallies. The first is a typical BMW Saturday afternoon cruise to enjoy the beauty an Upstate New York summer has to offer. The second is a technical drive through some twisty backroads where paying attention to the road is more important than the scenery.
Schedule (subject to change)
8:30 – 9:00 Judges and Organizers pre-event meeting
9:00 – 10:00 “Day-of” registration for anyone not pre-registered and final cleaning and detailing
10:00 – 12:00 Vehicle judging
12:00 – 1:30 Catered Lunch for entrants courtesy of Keeler Motor Car Company
2:00 – 4:00 Road Rally to The Waters Edge Lighthouse in Glenville, NY
4:00 – 5:00 Cocktail hour at The Waters Edge Lighthouse in Glenville, NY
5:00 – 6:15 Dinner at The Waters Edge Lighthouse in Glenville, NY (pre-registration required)
6:15 – 7:00 Awards Presentation
CONCOURS 2010 RULES Cars will compete in one of four cleanliness levels: Clean, Super Clean, Concours, or Dirty Dog. There are multiple model categories that are separated by Generation (major model changes), and Body style. There are also “Modified/Tuner” vehicles and a most dirty category. Model categories may be combined within their cleanliness category depending on the number of entries. A “Judges Choice” will be chosen for both Classic and Late model cars based on appearance, cleanliness, and rarity of model.
1. Entrants must be a member of the BMW CCA or may join at a reduced rate on the day of the event.
2. Entrants must own/lease the car entered. Entrants may enter multiple cars. Entry fees must be paid for each car.
3. Entrants that fit multiple categories must choose the category they wish to compete in before judging begins.
4. Modified/Tuner cars are cars with significant non-OEM add-ons and modifications that significantly affect the aesthetic value of the automobile. They are all judged “Super Clean”.
5. Vehicle categories are subject to combination and/or separation in order to generate fair and meaningful competition. Accordingly, cars will be placed in competition groups based on:
a. the number of registrants for similar year/model vehicles, i.e., all entries must compete against other entered vehicles (no winning by default)
b. the age of the vehicle, and
c. the vehicle model
6. Cars will be judged on a 0-9 scale overall, based on similar scoring for interior, exterior (for “Clean” category), engine, trunk (added for “Super Clean” category), and undercarriage (added for “Concours”). Elements to be considered: cleanliness, original equipment, and overall appearance. Modified/Tuner vehicles will be judged on showmanship, complexity, and fit and finish.
7. Separate awards: in addition to 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place winners for each model and cleanliness class, there will be a single:
a. “Best of Show” awarded for Classic and Late models based on appearance, cleanliness, and rarity of model.
b. “People’s Choice” award, determined by popular vote.
c. “Dirty Dog” award, determined by the ravages of time, neglect, and general disarray.
*These rules may be subject to change. Participants will be notified of any changes as soon as possible.